{"id":14713,"date":"2024-08-04T11:41:27","date_gmt":"2024-08-04T11:41:27","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.projectsmallhouse.com\/blog\/?p=14713"},"modified":"2024-08-16T12:32:25","modified_gmt":"2024-08-16T12:32:25","slug":"measurements-for-porch-plan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.projectsmallhouse.com\/blog\/2024\/08\/measurements-for-porch-plan\/","title":{"rendered":"Measurements for Porch Plan"},"content":{"rendered":"
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Covered Porch on a Westwood Modular Cabin<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

We want a great front porch on the cabin. The plan was to do something like this, with the porch starting at the end of the cabin.<\/p>\n

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The porch can start past the window to keep the living room sunny<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

But now that Mom has moved in, she doesn’t want the living room window covered by a porch. She wants to keep the light and the view.<\/p>\n

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22-feet wide available to the meter box with no roof over the living room window<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

That’s OK. There is still plenty of room left. If we start past the window, kinda halfway between the outdoor light and the window frame, there is around 22-feet to the meter box on the other side of the laundry room window.\u00a0 That is more than enough room.<\/p>\n

Another advantage to this is that most of the porch won’t be a walkway.<\/p>\n

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8-feet and 12-feet from the wall<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

The back flag is at 22-feet wide. The other two flags mark 8-feet and 12-feet from the wall.<\/p>\n

A 4-foot deep porch doesn’t give you enough room to even walk past chairs. The porch would get a lot of rain and not much shade. The only advantage is not getting as wet while you knock on the door. Meh.<\/p>\n

A six foot deep porch, a “rocking chair porch” is wide enough to have chairs on one side and navigate to them as long as they aren’t blocking the walkway.<\/p>\n

8-feet deep is deep enough to really use. 12-feet deep is even better.<\/p>\n

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My table is only 48″ across
The base keeps chairs from pushing in, so it takes up 90″ of space.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

This is our back porch. It is 12-feet deep.<\/p>\n

This is our outdoor table and chairs. The table came with my husband when I married him. It is only 48″ across, but the base keeps chairs from pushing in. From back of chair to back of chair, this takes up 90″.<\/p>\n

We used to use folding outdoor chairs. I bought these chairs when someone crashed through the wood ones we had. He didn’t get hurt, but we realized that the folding wood chairs said right on the bottom of the seat that they only support less weight than a lot of people weigh. Nobody looks at that before they sit down.<\/p>\n

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There is a walkway at the steps and around the doorways<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

This side of the porch has steps, doors and a dog door. But 12-feet gives enough room to clear the table no matter which way you are walking.<\/p>\n

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The porch is 12-feet deep, but two doors, two sets of steps, a dog door and a blind dog limit where we can put things<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

(We can’t move anything now because our old dog is blind and he knows where things are.)<\/p>\n

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18-foot wide x 8-foot deep porch<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

This is an 8-foot deep porch. If it’s not a walkway, this fits. Smaller furniture might fit better.<\/p>\n

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Rocking Chair on my back porch<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

I measured the rocking chairs on our back porch to get an idea of size, but porch furniture comes in a lot of sizes.<\/p>\n

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18-foot wide x 8-foot deep porch<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

This might fit better on an 8-foot deep porch.\u00a0 The dining area could fit better if the table is more practical than mine.<\/p>\n

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18-foot wide x 10-foot deep porch<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

By going to 10-feet deep, there is plenty of space. It’s a lot easier to get in and out of the chairs at the table.<\/p>\n

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12-foot x 12-foot porch<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

12-feet deep gives a lot more space to work with. This is only 12-wide and everything fits much better.<\/p>\n

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If you have a porch sofa that is 69\u201d long, you need at least 69\u201d that doesn\u2019t block a door or walk space. More if you want side tables.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

If you have a couch that is 69″ long x 30\u201d deep it will take up about 6-feet of your wall space.<\/p>\n

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Front of Cabin Plan with measurements to windows
Click to see bigger<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

There is a total of 31’4″ from edge of cabin to meter box. Out of that, there is plenty of space for a porch.<\/p>\n

The layout above shows the measurements with what is behind each window.<\/p>\n

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This is about 22-feet wide and 12-feet deep. I think the steps should be in a different location.<\/p>\n

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12 x 28 Covered Deck Plan
Click to see larger<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

This is the plan for our 12 x 28 “covered deck” back porch, as an example.<\/p>\n

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What about this?
12×12 covered deck and covered landing to door<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Don’t pay any attention to any of the numbers, I didn’t change them as I moved things around.<\/p>\n

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10×16 Pavillion in Mt Vernon, KY $5,000 on Facebook Marketplace<\/a>
Pre-made Covered Deck Delivered<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Did you know that you can buy pre-made covered decks from the companies that make sheds and gazebos? Like the sheds, they are actually 11-feet, 11-inches to stay within the size that doesn’t need a permit.<\/p>\n

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10×12 Pavillion in Lyons, GA $2,800 on Facebook Marketplace<\/a>
Pre-made Covered Deck Delivered<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Do I need a permit for a storage shed?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Storage sheds that are over 12 feet in any direction require permits. If the shed is less than 12 feet you will need to check with both the Environmental Health Department (if you have a septic tank) and the zoning jurisdiction where the property is located to ask if a permit is required from their office.<\/p>\n

Henderson County Permits and Inspections<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n

A permit is required to add a deck or porch to a house<\/strong>. A permit is required to enclose a deck. But if the deck is on its own feet and not attached to or supported by your house, it is not added to the house. You can confirm with the Permits and Inspections department where you live, but that’s what I was told here. The man I talked to recommends tie down anchors, like larger sheds or house trailers use. But if it is under 12 feet in both directions and not attached to the house, I was told that I don’t need a permit.<\/p>\n

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Marshall General Store 14×16 Pavillion $6,982 on Facebook Marketplace<\/a>
Pre-made Covered Deck Delivered<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

I have this in my notes, but I can’t find where I copied it from…<\/p>\n

An accessory structure is a structure which is on the same parcel of property as a principal structure and the use of which is incidental to the use of the principal structure such as a detached garage or storage shed for garden tools.\u00a0 Other examples of accessory structures include gazebos, picnic pavilions, boathouses, small pole barns, storage sheds, and similar buildings.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

So, that makes a gazebo and a picnic pavilion accessory structures.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

We want a great front porch on the cabin. The plan was to do something like this, with the porch starting at the end of the cabin. But now that Mom has moved in, she doesn’t want the living room window covered by a porch. …<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":14683,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[12,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-14713","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-new-cottage","category-research"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.projectsmallhouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/featured-porch_plan.jpg?fit=810%2C431&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":12935,"url":"https:\/\/www.projectsmallhouse.com\/blog\/2023\/12\/planning-a-deck-or-porch-for-the-modular-cabin\/","url_meta":{"origin":14713,"position":0},"title":"Planning a Deck or Porch for the Modular Cabin","author":"Carla","date":"December 6, 2023","format":false,"excerpt":"The plans are approved and stamped, so we meet with a contractor today for an estimate on grading, the foundation and tie-in work, and the utility hookups, sewer, water, and electric, for our new modular cabin. 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