{"id":7810,"date":"2020-08-04T16:25:21","date_gmt":"2020-08-04T16:25:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.projectsmallhouse.com\/blog\/?p=7810"},"modified":"2023-08-25T16:01:53","modified_gmt":"2023-08-25T16:01:53","slug":"comparing-vent-free-gas-stoves","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.projectsmallhouse.com\/blog\/2020\/08\/comparing-vent-free-gas-stoves\/","title":{"rendered":"Comparing Vent-Free\u00a0Gas Stoves"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I kinda had my heart set on adding a gas fire to make our antique mantel look like a real old fireplace. But it\u2019s just not working. Anything that will fit doesn\u2019t put out much heat. With the clearances it says we need, they won\u2019t fit in our mantel.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7811\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7811\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-7811\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.projectsmallhouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/fireplaces-ireland.jpg?resize=500%2C408&ssl=1\" alt=\"Fire Places at The Harbour Masters House in Shannon Harbour, Birr, County Offaly, Ireland\" width=\"500\" height=\"408\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7811\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Fire Places at The Harbour Masters House in Shannon Harbour, Birr, County Offaly, Ireland<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The guy at Etowah Fireplace suggested something like a Jotul. So it would look like a blocked up fireplace with a stove in front of it.<\/p>\n<p>These heating stoves come in vented or ventless, too.\u00a0 They also come as cast iron or painted metal. The cast iron can have a painted finish or an enameled porcelain finish, like the finish on a bath tub.<\/p>\n<p>I looked at a lot of options and then put them into Excel to find a way to compare them.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7814\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7814\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7814 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.projectsmallhouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/ashley_hearth.jpg?resize=500%2C200&ssl=1\" alt=\"Ashley Hearth Enameled Cast Iron Stoves come in Black, Brown or Red\" width=\"500\" height=\"200\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7814\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ashley Hearth Enameled Cast Iron Stoves come in Black, Brown or Red<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h2>Vent-Free Stoves<\/h2>\n<p>The easiest and least expensive thing we could do is a vent free stove. They look nice, are 99% efficient and can heat up to 1700 square feet.<\/p>\n<p>Different websites said that the exact same stove heats different size rooms. So, for consistency, I am using the 20 BTUs per square foot calculation.<\/p>\n<p>\u00a0<\/p>\n<table cellspacing=\"1\" cellpadding=\"3\" align=\"center\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><strong>Stove<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Wide<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>High<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Deep<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>BTU\/20<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>BTU<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>Price<\/strong><\/td>\n<td><strong>$\/Ft<\/strong><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Ashley Hearth Black Enameled Cast Iron AGC500VFBN<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">27.00<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">29.00<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">20.00<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">1550<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">31,000<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$1,736.72<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$1.12<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Ashley Hearth Brown Enameled Porcelain Cast Iron AGC500VFMN<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">27.00<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">29.00<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">20.00<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">1550<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">31,000<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$1,835.24<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$1.18<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Ashley Hearth Red Enameled Porcelain Cast Iron AGC500VFRN<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">27.00<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">29.00<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">20.00<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">1550<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">31,000<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$2,078.98<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$1.34<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Pleasant Hearth Metal VFS2-PH20DT<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">23.50<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">25.47<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">12.99<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">1000<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">20,000<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$348.24<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$0.35<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Pleasant Hearth Metal VFS2-L30DT<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">31.93<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">28.27<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">14.37<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">1500<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">30,000<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$549.00<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$0.37<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Ashley Hearth AGVF340N<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">38.00<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">23.75<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">16.50<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">1700<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">34,000<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$928.03<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$0.55<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Buck Stove T-33 NG<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">26.50<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">23.25<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">14.50<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">1600<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">32,000<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$1,238.99<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$0.77<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Buck Stove 384 NG<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">32.00<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">23.50<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">14.25<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">1650<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">33,000<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$1,499.99<\/td>\n<td align=\"right\">$0.91<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<h2>NG and LG<\/h2>\n<p>Ventless Fireplaces are marked NG and LG. NG is for natural gas, the gas that the city pipes in. LG is for propane, like your barbecue grill. A lot of fireplaces can use either. We ran city gas, so these numbers are all for natural gas.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7770\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7770\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7770 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.projectsmallhouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/Pleasant-Hearth-VFS2-PH20DT.jpg?resize=500%2C429&ssl=1\" alt=\"Pleasant Hearth Natural Gas Stove\" width=\"500\" height=\"429\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7770\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Pleasant Hearth Natural Gas Stove<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>This is a quick mockup of how the Pleasant Hearth VFS2-PH20DT would look. I am so not loving it.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_7817\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-7817\" style=\"width: 500px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-7817 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.projectsmallhouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/AGVF340N.jpg?resize=500%2C312&ssl=1\" alt=\"Ashley Hearth AGVF340N\" width=\"500\" height=\"312\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-7817\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Ashley Hearth AGVF340N<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The Ashley Hearth AGVF340N is everything I was originally looking for. But it is 38\u2033 wide. I\u2019d have to cut the legs off my mantel and that\u2019s not going to happen. And the mantel would stick out over it too close and too far and catch fire. It seems that my original idea defies the laws of thermodynamics.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.projectsmallhouse.com\/blog\/2020\/08\/comparing-vented-gas-stoves\/\">Comparing Vented Gas Stoves ><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I kinda had my heart set on adding a gas fire to make our antique mantel look like a real old fireplace. But it\u2019s just not working. Anything that will fit doesn\u2019t put out much heat. With the clearances it says we need, they won\u2019t&nbsp;<a class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.projectsmallhouse.com\/blog\/2020\/08\/comparing-vent-free-gas-stoves\/\">&hellip;<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":7819,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[31,1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7810","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-new-house","category-research"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.projectsmallhouse.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/08\/featured-comparing-vent-free-gas-stoves.jpg?fit=810%2C431&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":7916,"url":"https:\/\/www.projectsmallhouse.com\/blog\/2020\/08\/fireplace-hood-canopy-or-heat-deflector\/","url_meta":{"origin":7810,"position":0},"title":"Fireplace Hood, Canopy or Heat Deflector","author":"Carla","date":"August 6, 2020","format":false,"excerpt":"I've been looking at photos of the fireplaces in historic houses. 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