Comparing Vented Gas Stoves

Comparing Vented Gas Stoves

We want to have a fire in an antique mantel we bought. We have concluded that the mantel will go on the outside wall and the fireplace will vent through the wall. We gave up on the idea of it looking like a fireplace, so now we are comparing all of the options.

The only thing that would fit in the fireplace and not catch it on fire are just for looks. If they put out any heat, they need clearance. They can’t have the mantel over and past them because heat rises. And it would catch the very old wood mantel on fire.

If you have ever tried to keep a fire going, you will be surprised at how easy it is to catch something on fire when you don’t want to. The flames don’t even have to touch it. If something flammable gets hot enough, it can spontaneously combust.

Fireplace and Stove, Lyle House, Upper Red Hook, Dutchess County, NY Historic American Buildings Survey, Library of Congress Prints and Photographs Division Photographer Baldwin
Fireplace and Stove, Lyle House, Upper Red Hook, Dutchess County, NY
Historic American Buildings Survey, Library of Congress Prints and Photographs Division
Photographer Baldwin

This is not a new idea.

Coal Stove in Blocked up Chimney, Fort Leavenworth National Cemetery, Leavenworth, KS Historic American Buildings Survey, Library of Congress Prints and Photographs Division
Coal Stove in Blocked up Chimney, Fort Leavenworth National Cemetery, Leavenworth, KS
Historic American Buildings Survey, Library of Congress Prints and Photographs Division

So, now this is the idea. Get a stove to put in front of the mantel that looks good and provides backup heat if we lose power.

Regency C34 Gas Stove
Regency Ultimate U39 and C34 Gas Stoves are very efficient.

Efficiency

Vented gas fireplaces have widely varying efficiency ratings. This measures how much of the gas you burn (and pay for) is turned into heat and how much is lost to combustion and ventilation.

The more the fire turns on and off, the more heat is lost to combustion. A vented fireplace allows some heat to leave with the fumes.

Stove   Efficiency Price
Regency Ultimate U39 86% $2,792.98
Regency C34 Gas Stove 84% $2,179.98
Jotul GF 100 DV Nordic QT 83% $1,300.00
Jotul GF 400 BV Sebago 82.56% $2,855.00
Majestic Oxford Gas Stove 81% $1,849.99
Hearthstone Stowe Standing Pilot 80% $2,449.99
Enviro Westley 80% $3,699.99
Lopi Northfield 79.96% $2,968.00
Jotul GF 370 DV IPI 79.3% $2,999.99
Lopi Berkshire 78.13% $3,427.00
Ortal 60×80 78%
Jotul GF 500 DV Portland 77.02% $2,991.98
Jotul GF 400 DV IPI Sebago 77.02% $2,749.98
HearthStone Waitsfield DX 77% $3,879.99
Regency H35 Large Gas Stove 76% $2,869.98
Jotul GF 400 DV Sebago 75.60% $2,749.98
Jotul GF 300 DV Allagash 75.30% $2,379.98
Jotul GF 300 BV Allagash 75.30% $2,541.00
Jotul GF 200 DV II Lillehammer 75.05% $1,784.00
Regency H27 Gas Stove 75% $2,449.98
Hearthstone Champlain Standing Pilot 75% $2,749.99
Jotul GF 160 DV IPI 74.49% $3,699.98
Jotul GF 500 DV IPI Portland 74.26% $2,991.98
Jotul GF 300 DV IPI Allagash 73.57% $2,379.98
HearthStone Bristol DX 73% $3,429.99
Jotul GF 305 DV IPI 71.57% $2,999.99
Regency H15 Gas Stove 71% $1,819.98
Enviro Berkeley 69% $3,899.98

Regency Ultimate U39 and C34 Gas Stoves are very efficient. But, I am not loving them.

The next most efficient is the little Jotul GF 100 DV Nordic QT we have in the log cabin. But that is way too small for our living room.

Next is the Jotul GF 400 BV Sebago with 82.56% efficiency. It is 26.5″ wide x 28.4″ high and 24″ deep. It puts out 40,000 BTU and we were given a price of $2,855.00. That makes it $1.43 a foot.

Regency Hampton H15 Small Cast Iron Gas Stove
Regency Hampton H15 Small Cast Iron Gas Stove

The Regency H15 Gas Stove is 20.69″ wide x  22.5″ high and 16.19″ deep. It heats 900 square feet with 18,000 BTU at 71% efficiency. It costs $1,819.98, so it costs $2.02 per square foot. The finish is porcelain enamel and it comes in other finishes.

Hearthstone Stowe Cast Iron Gas Stove
Hearthstone Stowe Cast Iron Gas Stove

The Hearthstone Stowe cast iron gas stove is 22.38″ wide x 26.19″ high and 18.5″ deep. It heats 1120 square feet with 22,400 BTU at 80% efficiency. It costs $2,449.99 so that makes it $2.19 per square foot.

Lopi Northfield Small Cast Iron Gas Stove with glass on the front and sides
Lopi Northfield Small Cast Iron Gas Stove with glass on the front and sides

3-Sided Fire

And then I saw the Lopi Northfield. It has fire on three sides. Wow! Beautiful!

I got all distracted finding stoves with three glass walls.

Enviro Berkeley Gas Stove with windows on three sides
Enviro Berkeley Gas Stove with windows on three sides

Stoves with 3-Side Glass

Stove   Wide High Deep BTU/20 BTU Efficiency Price $/Ft
Lopi Northfield 21.25 26.25 17.00 1100 22,000 79.96% $2,968.00 $2.70
Lopi Berkshire 26.75 28.00 19.00 1550 31,000 78.13% $3,427.00 $2.21
HearthStone Bristol DX 22.50 26.39 16.00 1300 26,000 73% $3,429.99 $2.64
Enviro Westley 27.00 28.00 20.00 1450 29,000 80% $3,699.99 $2.55
Enviro Berkeley 30.00 31.00 23.00 2000 40,000 69% $3,899.98 $1.95
Jotul GF 370 DV IPI 15.25 45.50 18.75 1400 28,000 79.30% $2,999.99 $2.14
Jotul GF 160 DV IPI 17.75 35.50 17.75 1200 24,000 74.49% $3,699.98 $3.08

And Jotul makes some that have the tall narrow shape of the mantel!

Jotul Jotul GF 160 DV IPI and Jotul GF 370 DV IPI have glass on the front and two sides.
Jotul GF 160 DV IPI and GF 370 DV IPI have glass on the front and two sides.

They come in black or white and look very very Scandinavian because they are.

Jotul Jotul GF 160 DV IPI and Jotul GF 370 DV IPI have glass on the front and two sides.
Jotul GF 160 DV IPI and GF 370 DV IPI have glass on the front and two sides.

The tall one is too tall. It has to be under 40″ plus add the clearance.
But the small one might be really really cool!

Stove   Wide High Deep BTU/20 BTU Efficiency Price $/Ft
Jotul GF 160 DV IPI 17.75 35.50 17.75 1200 24,000 74.49% $3,699.98 $3.08
Jotul GF 370 DV IPI 15.25 45.50 18.75 1400 28,000 79.30% $2,999.99 $2.14

 

Jotul GF 305 DV IPI Gas Fire Heater
Jotul GF 305 DV IPI Gas Fire Heater

And look at this one! I love it! The Jotul GF 305 DV IPI is 22″ wide x  33.38″ high and 16.25″ deep. It heats 1400 square feet with 28,000 BTUs at 71.57% efficiency. It costs $2,999.99, which is more than we plan to spend.

Did you notice that what we are looking at keeps going up and up and up?

Enough Heat for the Whole House

Cliff decided that if we are going to this much trouble and expense, we should go ahead and get something that will heat the whole house.

So these are the ones that will even come close to heating the house.

Stove   Wide High Deep BTU/20 BTU Efficiency Price $/Ft
Jotul GF 400 DV IPI Sebago 26.50 28.40 20.50 1600 32,000 77.02% $2,749.98 $1.72
Jotul GF 400 DV Sebago 26.50 28.50 20.50 1600 32,000 75.60% $2,749.98 $1.72
Regency C34 Gas Stove 24.00 29.69 21.63 1600 32,000 84% $2,179.98 $1.36
Hearthstone Champlain Standing Pilot 30.00 31.00 23.00 1750 35,000 75% $2,749.99 $1.57
HearthStone Waitsfield DX 26.00 26.38 21.25 1850 37,000 77% $3,879.99 $2.10
Regency Ultimate U39 26.00 30.00 17.63 1900 38,000 86% $2,792.98 $1.47
Enviro Berkeley 30.00 31.00 23.00 2000 40,000 69% $3,899.98 $1.95
Jotul GF 400 BV Sebago 26.50 28.40 24.00 2000 40,000 82.56% $2,855.00 $1.43
Jotul GF 500 DV IPI Portland 25.50 30.13 23.00 2000 40,000 74.26% $2,991.98 $1.50
Jotul GF 500 DV Portland 28.50 30.13 23.00 2000 40,000 77.02% $2,991.98 $1.50

 

Jotul GF 400 BV Sebago
Jotul GF 400 BV Sebago

Final Choices

These are the ones we narrowed it down to. These are all attractive and efficient. They can all work if the power goes out. (Our gas hot water heater won’t burn unless it has electricity for some of it’s sensors. SO stupid!)

They are all adjustable. Some fireplaces are on or off. Sometimes you want a fire without as much heat. With these, we can turn the flame lower and it puts out less heat without turning the fire off completely.

They all have doors that can open so that you can keep the glass clean without taking the whole stove apart. You can even leave the doors open.

Some of the numbers vary from the ones on the charts. Brochures and websites are contradictory on some of this stuff. What matters most is size, BTUs and money. That part looks right here and we will be sure to confirm before we buy it.

Jøtul GF 400 DV Sebago $2,855.00
26.5” wide x 28.5” high x 20.5” deep
Height optional legs 26.25”
Max Heating (NG) 32000
Heating capacity up to 2200 sqft

  • JøtulBurner
  • Jøtul Heat Fin
  • Revolutionary new JøtulBurner™ delivers unsurpassed gas burner technology and flame picture realism
  • Approved for open/closed door fire viewing with Safety Screen Barrier (Included with unit)
  • No electricity required to operate the stove
  • JøtulBurner

Installing our Jotul Direct Vent Sebago >

Jøtul GF 300 DV Allagash
Jøtul GF 300 DV Allagash

This is a second choice.

Jøtul GF 300 DV Allagash $2,466.00
22.5” wide x 28” high x 17.5” deep
Height with optional short legs 25.75”
Max Heating (NG) 26000
Heating capacity up to 1300 sqft

  • Approved for open/closed door fire viewing with Safety Screen Barrier (Included with unit)
  • Zero clearance rear vent capability
  • 50% heat control turn down
  • No electricity required to operate the stove
Jotul GF 200 DV II Lillehammer
Jotul GF 200 DV II Lillehammer

And we could put this in the bedroom.

Jotul GF 200 DV II Lillehammer $1,784.00
22.75” wide x 25” high x 17.25” deep
Height with optional short legs 25”
Max Heating (NG) 20000
Heating capacity up to 800 sqft

  • Approved for open/closed door fire viewing with Safety Screen Barrier (Included with unit)
  • Zero clearance rear vent capability
  • 50% heat control turn down
  • No electricity required to operate the stove